Nex
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Post by Nex on Apr 10, 2012 16:31:54 GMT -5
I had a long list of things I had done and things I've done in our community and going to other communities and tearing it up with some RP fun. But I don't really remember too much of it except for hanging around the Ryomouku from time to time.
Anyway, been rping since I was 13 or 14. I was banned from Koei when I was like 16 or something and I miss Stef ;-;
That's about it really. I got a lot to do now a days. Been taking making music very seriously and I've been taking my youtube channel very seriously. I've also taken the support I get very seriously. Other than that I've been working on a regular and trying to keep in touch with all the people I meet various places. Sucks to lose contact with people because I value friends.
Hmm... dunno what else to say.
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Brian
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Post by Brian on Apr 10, 2012 17:45:42 GMT -5
I think the thing I miss about short posts is that it doesn't take as much time to actually get around to answering somebody. As it is now, you have to set aside literally half an hour just to respond to an RP post, and sometimes people will take 5+ paragraphs to state absolutely nothing. If only we were unafraid of short, good posts. The good part is key, though.. We used to all write a couple sentences and that made for really long threads of battles, fights, conversations, whatever. So really we used to advance the plot faster than we do now, although it was pretty much crap filled with decent ideas from time to time. It just seems like things happen so much more slowly now, because everybody needs to write an essay every time, o_0.. The only thing is half of us (people like Kyle, Justin, Sam and myself) don't look at it like we're simply RPing, like we used to when it was a 2 paragraph average per post. We take it like it's writing. Tolkein would spend three pages describing the side of a rock, but it was still good. GRRM spent two whole books describing what was basically nothing, but they're still best-sellers. I like to write posts like a chapter, or part of a chapter, of a novel. Making me change that would take out the fun I have with RPing.
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Post by Mikey on Apr 10, 2012 23:42:23 GMT -5
I helped keep the community alive while Team SL made this site. That's worth bragging about.
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Post by Mikey on Apr 11, 2012 0:29:27 GMT -5
-Put up with Rich for years Lol, ^ this guy.
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Aaron
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Post by Aaron on Apr 11, 2012 0:38:04 GMT -5
My whole take on Role Playing, is always to be about interaction between players. The thing is, while long posts are great (depending on the circumstances, and who writes them), they are not always warranted.
A concise and simple post that gets the main idea across and what you're doing, will always be superior than the one that is long and wordy. The superior writer is always able to entertain without overusing words. The point is to have meaningful prose. If it has no real purpose for being there (i.e. you've described something to the point where the picture is becoming blurry from your over-description rather than clear), then it should seriously be cut out.
Writing is an art, and it is one where you have to train properly in order to be good at it. It's easy to think you're good when you're not, but likewise it's also easy to think you're not good at it when you are.
But what do I know? I'm just an old codger who has been around the block a few too many times. I've got nothing to brag about, simply because I don't want to. I just know what's enjoyable for me, and I write as to how the situation would fit what I'm writing. But ultimately I'm here for character growth, a "second life" as it were. If I wanted to write a novel, I'd write a novel, not role play.
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Post by Kyle on Apr 11, 2012 0:53:43 GMT -5
Essentially, I enjoy writing novels with others. So there's where we differ, I guess. I don't think there's anything wrong with role playing for role play or role playing for the writing experience. I can honestly say that in writing how I do, I feel connected to my characters in a way that I never could previously. Expressing their feelings, their thoughts, where I could otherwise remain silent about them is extremely gratifying. And maybe that makes me selfish, or a bad role player, because I write for myself more so than for others, lol. Either way, I think that as long as everyone is enjoying themselves, no one should give any fucks about how short or long other people's posts are.
Do it how you feel it.
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Leo
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Post by Leo on Apr 11, 2012 1:04:13 GMT -5
Interesting discussion on writing.
I, personally, retired after five years of roleplaying at the start of 2011. It was a very interesting experience and it had profound impacts on my writing when I returned to the craft early this year (seriously, once you start, you cannot just close shop). I used to write ridiculously long posts, complete with often unnecessary and trivial introspection, but now - after returning, the most I'll write is 600 words. If I'm given stimulus, a great deal to work with, sure, I'll be more inclined to write greater amounts, but as it stands - if I have to write a post where a general is trying to secure an alliance, I won't tell you about how pretty he thinks the hallway is. My opinion is, be concise, reflect on how the character is feeling and get to the point. I much rather prefer quality over quantity, especially when it comes to dialogue and how the character is presented.
Looking back on some old posts I made, 6 paragraphs, 1000+ words - it was just unnecessary. But then again, exactly as Kyle said, each to his own; as long as everyone is enjoying their craft. The worst thing that can happen is someone feels like they HAVE to write large posts because everyone else is doing so.
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Brian
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Post by Brian on Apr 11, 2012 2:01:58 GMT -5
Essentially, I enjoy writing novels with others. So there's where we differ, I guess. I don't think there's anything wrong with role playing for role play or role playing for the writing experience. I can honestly say that in writing how I do, I feel connected to my characters in a way that I never could previously. Expressing their feelings, their thoughts, where I could otherwise remain silent about them is extremely gratifying. And maybe that makes me selfish, or a bad role player, because I write for myself more so than for others, lol. Either way, I think that as long as everyone is enjoying themselves, no one should give any fucks about how short or long other people's posts are. Do it how you feel it. Couldn't have said it better myself. It makes sense that we think the exact same, considering we've been doing the same craft the same way for like 6 years now.
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Post by Mick aka Mortiss on Apr 11, 2012 6:23:41 GMT -5
Some interesting points made here, maybe this should have its own thread.
I think the line between Role Playing and story telling is blurred, there is not really a difference. Every time you write a post you are adding to a plotline and building character development, everyone is writing a story and everyone is Role Playing.
The problem is as already stated in character interaction. Brian uses Tolkien and George RR Martin as an example and sure they are great at what they do. How often do you see them in character dialogue though have one person ask 3 questions, make 3 statements and answer 3 questions without response? It doesn't happen, therein lies the problem.
The way we do action is fine but the way we do communication is flawed and IMO should be streamlined and shortened.
In our posts you would never see this for example (random page in Clash of Kings)
The only time you would ever see an interaction like this is when a character is conversing with NPC's which is often the most interesting dialogue we have. That shouldn't be the case though, it should never be more interesting communicating with an NPC than with another player.
If this dialogue from Martin was done here then you would have 3 players one being Stannis, one being Renly and one being Catelyn. Where in actuality each player should only be posting 1 - 5 lines you would end up with a player making 3 Paragraphs to say one sentence. This just slows everything down and makes dialogue cumbersome and irritating.
Do you see my point?
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Brian
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Post by Brian on Apr 11, 2012 11:31:05 GMT -5
Oh I definitely agree with dialogue. It's very important to the way a novel is written, which is why in some of my posts, I'll take the dialogue from my partners in their posts and work them into mine. It makes MY posts flow better, but I've been trying not to do it so much here because it also makes them much longer.
It's no secret that dialogue is the most messed up part of RP'ing, because for it to flow as seamlessly as it does in a novel, a post would have to be a sentence or two in length.
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Post by Fa Zheng on Apr 11, 2012 12:06:11 GMT -5
This thread would be a whole lot more fun if people were writing other people's brag sheets, instead of everyone just spouting off about how awesome they are
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Post by Mick aka Mortiss on Apr 11, 2012 12:11:22 GMT -5
Its all done in good humour Fa Zheng, none of us are really saying we are awesome in seriousness. And Brian I dont see making a few sentences to get dialogue going a problem. In conversation you don't need all the extra description, it just slows down plot development.
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Brian
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Post by Brian on Apr 11, 2012 13:51:23 GMT -5
Yes, but it's not like plot development would flow if we were taking 30 posts of dialogue to get a 6 post thread concluded. It's just one of those areas that are unorganized, and no different way of posting will make dialogue more organized IMO. We've come to live with it.
And you know our community has gotten far too big-headed when THE Justin is the one who appears humble.
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Post by Fa Zheng on Apr 11, 2012 14:12:25 GMT -5
Yeah you guys should PROBABLY be ashamed of yourselves
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Post by Cao Ren on Apr 11, 2012 14:58:11 GMT -5
I'm Jack and I'm newbie to this community. I started Rp'ing two years ago, I used to be active on DWRP and it is here where I met, Colby, Voro, Simon and Tai but the site soon died once Steve came along, he took a major role then left with his own site taking much of the community, after that the site never recovered. I followed Colby where ever he went after dwrp had finished. I ended up at various sites with no real survival factor, so Colby decided to create his own which we enjoyed for a few months and then it died. After a while I joined New Era, which was good but after Colby left I became uninterested. When New-Era passed I decided to make my own site as there didn't seem to be any around. It didn't last long and now I'm here. I haven't done much in my rp career, I prefer to be involved in battles as opposed to writing, as I feel i'm a much better general than a plot person. The only thing significant I have done in my career is; Lost to Tai in a duel. Killed Josh, Captured Hiro and checked Burai's offence when the 3 rebelled against me.
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